May 14, Several Members met at the Assembly Chamber, in the City-Hall Examination of Captain Jeremiah Wool by Alderman Brasher: Arrest of counterfeiters on Long-Island, Examination of Isaac Ketchum, of Huntington, Suffolk County, Nassau-Island, Deposition of Thomas Henderson

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NEW-YORK PROVINCIAL CONGRESS.

In the Congress Chamber of the City-Hall in the City of New-York,
Die Martis, 10 ho˙ A˙ M˙, May 14, 1776.

This being the day on which the Provincial Congress was to meet at the City of New-York, pursuant to Elections held in the respective Counties of this Colony, on the . . . day of April last, the following gentlemen met in the Assembly-Chamber at the City-Hall of the City of New-York, viz:

FOR NEW-YORK. — Mr˙ Evert Bancker, Captain Denning, Mr˙ Sands, Colonel Brasher.

FOR ALBANY. — Mr˙ Glenn, Mr˙ Cuyler.

FOR ULSTER. — Mr˙ Wisner.

FOR SUFFOLK. — General Woodhull, Captain Wickham.

FOR WESTCHESTER. — Mr˙ Paulding.

FOR KING' S. — Mr˙ Polhemus.

FOR DUTCHESS. — Mr˙ Schenck.

FOR ORANGE. — Mr˙ Haring.

No other Members appearing, the gentlemen present could not proceed to business, as a Congress, for want of a sufficient number.

But Captain Wool having arrived this morning, and being attending with certain Prisoners apprehended on Long-Island, and brought here by order of the late Provincial Congress, the gentlemen present had Captain Wool and Isaac Ketcham severally brought in and examined in their presence before Mr˙ Alderman Brasher; and the Examination of Captain Wool and Isaac Ketcham, respectively, hereinafter follow, viz:

City of NEW-YORK, ss:

Jeremiah Wool, of the City of New-York, being duly sworn on the Holy Evangelists, deposeth and saith: That

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he landed on Nassau-Island about nine or ten o' clock in the evening, last Saturday evening, and called on Thomas Weeks, Esquire, at Huntington, who was very ready and willing, on the order from Congress, to give his assistance in apprehending the persons therein named; that he then sent for the men under his command, and they arrived there about two o' clock last Sunday morning; that several of the Committee were then collected, who gave the deponent a guide to go with himself, and two guides to go with a party of his men to Isaac Ketcham' s house; that he proceeded with one party and a guide to Isaac Youngs' s house, and arrived there about the dawning of the day; that having set guards round the house, and knocked at the door, Isaac Youngs came to the door and opened it; that he (the deponent) immediately entered; that Isaac Youngs appeared much surprised; that the deponent told him he had business with him at Huntington, and desired him to make himself ready, and desired him to be silent and not make any alarm; that after Isaac Youngs had dressed himself, he proceeded with some of his men to search the house; that they then proceeded to an apartment of Israel Youngs, and searched that; that in that house they proceeded to a room in which they were informed Henry Dawkins usually lodged, and found under the bed in which he was informed Dawkins had lodged, a few Engraver' s tools; that at the head of one of the beds in that room, one of his Sergeants discovered a crack or opening in the wall, which they suspected to be a door; that on removing the bed and other furniture necessary, with a bayonet put into the crevice, they opened a small door, within which was a narrow stairs; that Isaac Youngs, who was present, appeared to be in terror, and trembled; that the deponent sent his Sergeant and another

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man up the stairs, who called to him that there was a printing press; that having called up some more men to take charge of Isaac Youngs, he (the deponent) proceeded up the said stairs into a very concealed garret, with one small window, and there found a rolling-press; that the first paper he picked up was a paper which he now produced, appearing to be a copperplated imperfect copy of a Bill of Connecticut money, of forty Shillings; that he found no white man in the house, or any apartment of it, but Isaac Youngs; that he sent one man and a guide at some miles distance to search for Dawkins, and also sent to search for Henderson, but without success; that in a basin of water near the press were a number of papers cut to the size of the bill he found under the press, or thereabout; that he then had the press, with every utensil thereof, taken down, and brought down stairs; that he found in a chest in that house, which the wife of Israel Youngs said belonged to Henry Dawkins, a great number of Engraver' s tools, and a number of plates, all which, with the said chest, he has brought with him; that on searching in Israel Youngs' s apartment, in a drawer of a chest of drawers, he found a copperplate completely engraved for the impressing of two Dollar bills, and on the plate a bill appearing to be a two Dollar bill of Continental money, which plate and bill he now produces, and the bill is numbered 45,234, signed with the names of A˙ Morris, Jun˙, and Fred˙ Kuhl, and dated February 17, 1776; that out of a desk he took a parcel of strips of paper, now produced, which Israel Youngs' s wife said she believed was cut off bills of Continental money; that in Israel Youngs' s apartment, in a large chest, or something of that kind, large and deep, he found four bills, appearing to be Bills of Credit of Massachusetts-Bay Colony, each of the denomination of forty-two Shillings, of the Colony of the Massachusetts-Bay, dated December 7, 1775, completely plated, but not signed or numbered; that in Israel Youngs' s apartment he found a parcel of paper, on some part of which he observed a number of names, written in different hands, which he has brought with him, and that four vials of different kinds of ink were found in that part of the house where the rolling press was, which ink he has left in the hands of an inhabitant of Huntington; that the ink for the plates is in Dawkins' s chest; that in Isaac Youngs' s apartment one of his men took a bill, appearing to be a Continental Dollar bill, off a shelf, which he now produces; that before he left Youngs' s, he was informed that Isaac Ketcham was taken; that he ordered him to be brought to Youngs' s; that he put the press and chests, and other matters he had seized, on a wagon, and proceeded with them, and the prisoners he had taken, to Williams' s Tavern, where Mr˙ Weeks, and some of the Committee, who were sent for, came and attended; that from thence they despatched two parties, who found and took John Henderson and Henry Dawkins, and brought them there; that after he had talked some time with Dawkins, he told the deponent the whole truth should come out, and having got pen, ink, and paper, he wrote and signed, of his own accord, a declaration, which he delivered to the deponent, and is now produced, and is in the words following, to wit:

"The back of the Connecticut forty Shillings bill, and front of ditto, have had some impressions taken off; one back and front of the forty-two Shillings Massachusetts, none but one proof taken off to my knowledge; one back and front of the thirty Dollar bill never proved to my knowledge; one front of the two Dollar bill just begun, which was on the plate, taken off with blue letters, the borders partly done, the inside letters not touched, and will wipe off if put to the fire.

"HENRY DAWKINS."

That the deponent did not speak to the said Henry Dawkins while he was writing the said confession or memorandum, but the said Henry Dawkins wrote and subscribed the same in the presence of Henry Brasher, his Lieutenant, and the deponent; that the said Henry Dawkins also delivered to him (the deponent) a small paper containing the names of Israel Youngs, Isaac Youngs, Townshend Hulet, and Isaac Ketcham, and told the deponent they were concerned in this business; that said Dawkins told him that Israel Youngs was principally concerned, and had frequently applied to him on the subject of making and counterfeiting Paper money, or Bills of Credit; and when he was in Jail at New-York formerly, had offered to take

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him out and procure his discharge, if he would come up to his house and engage in that business; that Henry Dawkins informed him that ————- Woolhaupter had made the rolling-press, and that Israel Youngs brought it up to his house, secreted and put up in a box; that he (the said Dawkins) had recommended Woolhaupter to Israel Youngs as a proper person to make such press, and that Israel Youngs procured the press for the purpose of making money. That the deponent found in the possession of Isaac Ketcham a sum of money, consisting of gold, silver, and paper money, of different denominations, which he now produces, amounting, according to the deponent' s computation, to the sum of £30 14s˙, New-York money; that Isaac Ketchum told the deponent that he was employed in this business to get paper; that he had not been concerned in making the money, but that he was taken into the business to provide them with paper, and that he had been out on that business, but that he could inform the Congress of something that was very important to them; that a blank copperplate, now produced by the deponent, he received of Henry Brasher, his Lieutenant, who informed the deponent that he took it off a desk in Israel Youngs' s house.

JEREMIAH WOOL.

Sworn this 14th day of May, 1776, before me:

ABRAHAM BRASHER, Alderman.

City of NEW-YORK, ss:

Isaac Ketchum, of Huntington, Suffolk County, Nassau-Island, being examined, saith: That Henry Dawkins has been at Cold-Spring, and the neighbourhood thereof, for about two months; that he was there some time before this examinant knew his (Dawkins' s) name; that he (the examinant) was informed by Isaac Youngs that Rivington, the Printer, and the said Youngs, had had some discourse about counterfeiting the Continental money; that the Youngs hinted to this examinant that Dawkins and he had agreed to counterfeit the Paper currency, for he supposed it would be done by the Tories, and they might as well do it as others; that Israel Youngs asked this examinant if he would try to get some paper for that purpose at Philadelphia, where he (the examinant) was then going, and had talked of going for some time; that this examinant asked Youngs whether he thought they were able to make paper money; that Youngs answered they had a press making in New-York, which was not yet finished; that the examinant then asked how he applied for the press; he answered that Dawkins had written a letter to a man in New-York, in the name of one Cox, with directions how he would have it made, to be different from the one he had from him some time before, and more substantial; that this examinant believes Youngs carried the letter; that he had not got the press yet, but was promised to have it soon.

This examinant further saith: That he did not go to Philadelphia till about the 19th of April, and returned in about ten or twelve days; that he went to carry a couple of horses to sell at Philadelphia, and so collect some money which was owing to him there; that he did not purchase or make any inquiry about paper at any Paper-Mill, but that he asked a man if he knew where such paper as the Continental money was made of was to be had; that the man answered he did, but that the maker of it was sworn, and therefore would not make any of it for him. This examinant being asked who the man was of whom he made this inquiry relative to the paper, refused to mention his name, as he believed him to be a worthy, honest Dutchman. The examinant being further asked whether the Dutchman knew the use that was intended to be made of the paper, answered he believed he did — that he smiled; that the examinant told him he did not want it for his own use; upon which the man replied, "I suppose it is for some of your Yankees." That examinant, on his return home, informed Youngs that he had not been able to procure any paper for him. This examinant being asked whether he has seen any of the bills, answered that he had not, excepting one Connecticut bill, and that only the back of it, struck upon common paper.

This examinant further saith: That one Levi Lott, at Brunswick-Landing, had been employed by Youngs for the purpose of procuring paper, before this examinant was employed; that he was directed by Youngs to call on the said Lott, and inquire whether he had procured any paper;

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that Lott Informed this examinant that he had been down to Spottswood, at a Paper-Mill, and had not applied for any paper, as there seemed little encouragement there, as he imagined there was no isinglass or suitable rags to be had there; that he (Lott) had promised Youngs to go to Pennsylvania, but waited for an answer or letter from Youngs; that he (the said Lott) did not make his business known to any person at the Paper-Mill at Spottswood, as he informed this examinant. This examinant being asked what reply Youngs made to him on his returning from Philadelphia, and informing him that he had not been able to procure him any paper, saith: That Youngs replied that he believed then he would not be able to go on, and Dawkins would lose his labour.

This examinant further saith: That he frequently spoke to Youngs, and told him it would not do for him to make such money; that Youngs answered him he did not intend to pass it himself, but intimated that some one on the frontiers of Virginia or Susquehanna would take it of him, and give something in exchange for it.

ISAAC KETCHAM.

Taken this 14th of May, 1776, before me:

ABRAHAM BRASHER, Alderman.

Isaac Ketcham being further examined, saith: That Levi Lott gave him a sample of paper to take to Philadelphia to the Paper-Mill, which he said he had cut out of a sheet of Continental bills from between the bills; that he (the examinant) put it into his pocket-book, and there kept it till the guard came to his house, when he took it out of his pocket-book and threw it into the fire and burnt it.

ISAAC KETCHAM.

Taken this 14th of May, 1776, before me:

ABRAHAM BRASHER, Alderman.

City of NEW-YORK, ss:

Isaac Ketcham, above-named, being, at his request, further examined, says: That though he at first intended to obtain paper at Philadelphia for the purpose of printing money, yet, on consideration, he thought it dangerous, and determined not to bring the paper, even if he could obtain it; that he considered if he got the paper it would not go into his saddle-bags, and that if he should carry it in a bag, it would be discovered, and therefore determined not to bring it, if it could be had.

ISAAC KETCHAM.

Taken this 15th day of May, 1776, before me:

WILLIAM WADDELL, Alderman.